Transcript: Claire Holt Part 2

DAMIEN KING LEE (3s): Hi, I’m Damien King Lee, and this is the fucked up story of my life and the lives of my guests. In this series of podcasts, I’ll be speaking to unique and inspiring individuals about their life, their personal stories, struggles, and experiences.

THE VOICE (26s): Welcome to Life Is with Damien King Lee. This is The Voice I hope you enjoy the following. Our guest this week is Claire Holt. The Australian actress who’s taking America by storm. She’s really quite fascinating. I really hope you enjoy it. We did.

DAMIEN KING LEE (45s): Claire, have you ever experienced, I mean, in your career out there, any sort of, I dunno, say resentment because you’re, you’re not originally from obviously the US and you’re taking some roles from, from, from the locals. You know, Brits are taking those roles more, Australia’s taking those roles and so on. Is there any sort of, does that, I mean, do you get that vibe sometimes?

CLAIRE HOLT (1m 9s): I haven’t directly felt it. No one has ever really made me feel like, you know, get off our set. This should be someone else. Which I’m very grateful for. I know that there is a certain feeling at times, and I understand it from American actors. Like, why are you hiring four Australian’s to play four southerners? It doesn’t make sense. And to be fair, you know, our accents, aren’t perfect all the time. And I can certainly pick them up when someone’s been struggling with the accent. So I think that it’s there, and I’m sure, you know, it’s warranted, but I thankfully haven’t, I haven’t had any of that directed at me, which is nice.

CLAIRE HOLT (1m 56s): People haven’t been, people pretty nice to me, which is awesome because I dunno how I’d handle it if someone was like, get the hell out of here. Be like, sorry. Okay. Yes, I’m leaving.

DAMIEN KING LEE (2m 6s): I got a friend of mine here in the UK, and he’s a relative of a very well known American actor and so forth. And we were great mates and we always sort of take the mickey out of each other about, you know, why so many Australians are doing great in America. And we’re putting on the American accents and taking American parts. And he always says the only reason why you you Australians, and Aussies are doing well in America, cause you’re damn cheaper, that’s all. I dunno.

CLAIRE HOLT (2m 32s): It’s true, we basically work for free.

DAMIEN KING LEE (2m 37s): Oh man. So, and look, have you ever had any moments out there in your crew out there where you think this is, you know, I’m done here? You know, I want to go back home or, I mean.

CLAIRE HOLT (2m 48s): You know, not many, I, I love what I do so much and when I’m on a set, I’d never feel more me. And so when I’m the opportunity to do that, it’s incredible and it’s addictive and I just want to keep doing it. The times that I have felt like I want to just go home. Honestly, they’ve been recently and it’s been because of the state of the country. That’s been a struggle for me. And so I felt like, you know, gosh, I miss those days and I just became an American, you know, the last year I got my citizenship.

CLAIRE HOLT (3m 37s): And I, I, you know what, at the time I was really proud to get my citizenship and I love this country and it’s done so many amazing things for me and given me incredible opportunities, but now with everything that’s happening, it’s just like my heart breaks reading the news. And I really, I feel helpless. And those are the times where I, I looked to my family at home. I see friends doing, you know, going back and moving home. And I think, gosh, you know, maybe it’d be nice. I have a tremendous childhood and maybe be nice to raise my kids there. I know that it’s just a fleeting feeling and you know, my husband’s from the United States and I really do believe that we can get better.

THE VOICE (4m 28s): It’s that’s, sorry to interrupt, but the, but Damien, you were, you were saying something recently. I think we should probably bring up to Claire. It’s fundamentally, you know, it’s, it’s propagandising that’s driven that country apart because the people are not fundamentally bad people or stupid people or evil people or, you know, ignorant racist, but they’re not that, you know, they aren’t actually, I mean, obviously there’s a small minority everywhere, but you know, you had this very positive way of looking at it.

DAMIEN KING LEE (4m 59s): Yeah. You know, look, look for me, Claire, you know, growing up, back home in Australia as a kid and whatever, you know, I used to idolize America, you know, and, and the TV shows and their chewing gum and, you know, the, the peanut butter and jelly. Goobsmacker, you know, peanut butter.

CLAIRE HOLT (5m 19s): And Dr. Pepper, what’s Dr. Pepper?

DAMIEN KING LEE (5m 24s): Everything America was shiny and just, it was the beacon of hope and aspiration. And, you know, sadly over the last few years, that’s a lot of that’s changed. And, you know, I’m saddened by certain things going on in America right now that that have sort of changed the whole dynamics and, and, and certain quarters of America seem to be turning their back on the rest of the world for, for different reasons. And that saddens me because America always, for me, was beacon of hope. You know, that it was that it was that, that searchlight, that, that lighthouse that was shining brightly for all of us to, to guide us home and, and, and to safety.

DAMIEN KING LEE (6m 10s): And it doesn’t seem to be there right now. And, and there was so much going on. And that’s why I’m curious to know from your point of view, as an Ozzie in America, how does that feel? And you kind of talking about that now, and

CLAIRE HOLT (6m 23s): It’s heartbreaking. It really is heartbreaking because I moved here 11 years ago and almost, yeah, almost 12 years ago. And it was like my dream to, to make it here and to be able to live here and raise a family here. And, you know, I always looked at the opportunity and what an incredible country it was and how much it had to offer. And now, you know, all I think is God, I don’t want my kids to have to go to school, and do gun drills. I don’t, I don’t want that. I don’t want to have to like look over my shoulder constantly.

CLAIRE HOLT (7m 6s): I don’t, it’s really a difficult feeling. And it’s something that I’ve struggled with a lot lately, because I feel like we’re just so divided. And in my experience here, I’ve never known the country to feel that way. And it really is heartbreaking, but I have hope that it will change. I have hope, you know, throughout history, we’ve seen this happen many times and we’ve come out the other side and I just think, well, what’s my part that I can do. What can I do to make this country better? And what can I do to play my part in, in stopping this awful racism that seems to be happening?

CLAIRE HOLT (7m 51s): And I know it’s always happened, but you know, we’ve been far less aware of it, you know, as someone who is white and privileged, I, you know, I, I really have to admit I was ignorant. I didn’t realize it was as bad or as prevalent as it is. And I think sadly, it’s just come to a light in the last four years and it sucks. It’s really, it’s, it sucks. And it makes me really sad. And I have to stop myself from reading too much of the news because I hate the way it makes me feel. And I hate the way that some people are suffering in this country, but I’m just going to do my bit to raise good children, good American children, who can make a difference and, and help people as opposed to tearing people down.

CLAIRE HOLT (8m 43s): And I guess that’s all we can do.

DAMIEN KING LEE (8m 45s): That’s all we can do Claire. And, you know, and that’s interesting you say that too, because even for me, you know, in, in, in my day job, let’s call it, you know, I’ve recently expanded my business and company into America and, you know, I have a, I have a food brand and other businesses and we’ve just launched a nationally across America. And that was my dream, you know, to, to, to take my brand into America. And I thought, you know, I, my dream one day when I get my product into Whole Foods and you know, all these other places, that’s, that’s the big excitement for me and guess what, I’m going to take my kids and we’re going to move to America and, you know, make that home base for a while.

DAMIEN KING LEE (9m 29s): And, you know, I’ve, I’ve, I’ve stopped that thinking right now. I just want to see things settle down. And, you know, I, I, as you said, I don’t want my kids to be doing gun drills right now. And that’s that scares the hell out of me. And, you know, look you, you have, and that brings me to another point. You have a huge social media following, you know, it’s phenomenal what you’ve built in social media as a, as a person. I mean, your following is bigger than some of, you know, bigger, bigger names that are just do incredible movies. How do you do it? It’s incredible.

CLAIRE HOLT (10m 8s): You know, it’s interesting. I, I, from when I very first started my social media accounts, I always maintained that I wanted to remain authentic. I’m going to share who I am. And if you don’t like me, you don’t have to follow me, but I’m not going to pretend to be this aspirational figure. I’m not going to do fashion shows in my house and, you know, make up tutorials because let’s face it. I have no idea what I’m doing. That’s not why people care. I’m just going to be honest about my experiences and my life. And, you know, obviously I’m not sharing every meal I eat and everything I do with my children and my son and future daughter.

CLAIRE HOLT (10m 49s): But my experience is particularly the tough ones I’ve found. It was really important to share. And I think when I had my miscarriage, I realized that at the time there were not a lot of people being overly vocal. Of course there were some people who, who spoke about it, but I hadn’t seen people with big platforms on social media share about the experience. And I was so nervous. I was nervous that people were going to say that I was doing this for attention, that I was oversharing. You know, it wasn’t necessary. I just didn’t know what kind of feedback I was going to get, but I felt really compelled to share how I felt because when it happened to me, all I did was go on the internet search for other people who have had the same experience.

CLAIRE HOLT (11m 35s): And I would Google it, I would go down this message board and try and find women who felt as, as much despair and hopelessness as I felt. And there was a community of women who were really open about it online, but I had never sort of seen someone do it in a way that was like, okay, here, this is going to live on my Instagram feed forever. And here are my words. And here’s how I feel. And when I did that, I think that people really connected with it. And I got 40,000 comments from men and women who’d been through the same thing. And the men really surprised me, you know, saying, you know, my wife’s experienced this and she really struggled and thank you for sharing your story.

CLAIRE HOLT (12m 18s): And that really made me realize that, that moment, okay, I can use this for something I can connect with people. If I can just help one person who’s going through something that I’m going through to feel normal and less alone, then it’s worth it. And so I’ve really tried throughout my motherhood journey to be open about what I felt to be open about my struggles with anxiety, my difficulty breastfeeding, my anxiety, having another child. And I think people connect with the fact that I am telling the truth. I am being me. And, and I feel like we live in a world now where people crave that they don’t want to just see another picture of, or maybe they do look, the Kardashians actually to have a lot of followers, because they have done so well.

CLAIRE HOLT (13m 6s): Kris Jenner is a genius for what she’s done with that family, but it’s just not who I am. And I don’t think that people follow me for that reason. And so I just tried to remain me and somehow, somehow my following continues to grow and to connect with that.

DAMIEN KING LEE (13m 25s): It is that authenticity, I think. And I watch your engagement in terms of your followers. I mean, the engagement’s incredible. And I think it really is that genuine authenticity.

THE VOICE (13m 37s): I think in fact, you, you probably have the highest engagement numbers I’ve ever seen. And I don’t know anything about social media. So I barely know what engagement means but someone explained it to me recently after, after one of the previous guests, like I had like 30 million followers and all this and they went yeah, but their engagement is a very good, what does that mean? And, and now I know, and I’m kinda like, wow, okay.

CLAIRE HOLT (13m 59s): I’m just really fortunate to have fans who have a very supportive and want to engage. And that’s the thing, like, I’m always surprised by the level of engagement, but then I realized, you know, there are people out there who just want to connect with you and you can give as much as yourself as you want to. Obviously I’m not going to show the whole world, absolutely everything warts and all, because I, I want to keep some things private to myself and my family, but I really do care about my followers and my fans, and I want to connect with them. And I want them to know that, you know, I am reading and I am listening and I do see those comments if I can’t comment back to all of them, you know, it’s tough, but I do, I do care.

CLAIRE HOLT (14m 39s): And, and, and that’s why I think the engagement has remained pretty consistently high.

DAMIEN KING LEE (14m 45s): And I mean, you have, because you, you mentioned earlier about that sort of influence potentially that you can have in spreading sort of a good message, and so on. I mean, in terms of your, your own personal social responsibilities and values and things that you care about, what, what are some of these things, would you say are the things that matter to you?

CLAIRE HOLT (15m 7s): So the way I was raised, I have always felt a huge sense of social responsibility from both my mother and my father, my mother always, you know, anytime we walked by someone who was homeless, when we were kids, she would explain the situation and say like, you know, talk to us about why they might be in that situation and, and how fortunate we are that we’re not there and that we have to look out for people like that. My father always just, he has such a strong, moral compass. He always does the right thing. And amazingly, all of my siblings have grown up that way. And my sister in particular has this incredible, you know, social drive to do good.

DAMIEN KING LEE (15m 51s): Is this the one in America?

CLAIRE HOLT (15m 54s): This is the one in America. And she and my father actually started an orphanage, a foundation in Uganda. My sister was working there for the UN for four months and my dad went to visit her and they got talking to one of the gentlemen who worked at the hotel that we’re staying at. And he, he said that, you know, he was looking after… I think at the time it was maybe 10 or 15 boys on his own, on his salary from, from the restaurant at the hotel. And they had someone who had been taking care of them financially, but the gentleman had passed away and so they had no one to help them. And so my, my father and my sister said, well, can you take us out there?

CLAIRE HOLT (16m 36s): So they went out, I think it was an hour outside of town. They were in Kampala and it’s, and they, they drove out to meet these kids. And they said it was just the most life-changing experience. You know, they had no shoes, they had no electricity, but they were the happiest sort of kids that they’d ever seen. And they were just content and joyful. And so my sister and my father decided to, and, you know, we want to help these children and we want to build something here. So they’ve built an incredible foundation now called the Kichwamba Children’s Foundation in, in Uganda. And it’s, you know, sent countless children to school and given them really amazing opportunities.

CLAIRE HOLT (17m 16s): And, but also just encourage that… A system there where they build that from themselves. So it’s not like I know that a lot of people go on about this white saviour complex. I posted something about my sister once, and I got a few comments on Instagram. People be like, “you know, this is white saviour complex, and you… they shouldn’t be saving these people. They should just, you know, be taught how to save themselves.” And it’s not about that and I think they really do care about teaching them how to sustain themselves and grow livestock and build their own infrastructure so that, so that they can at one point, you know, run, run themselves, which is I think an incredible thing.

CLAIRE HOLT (17m 56s): So I really care about that foundation. And then I do a lot of work with St Jude Children’s Hospital, which is an incredible hospital in the United States that has helped to raise the childhood survivor final rate of cancer from 20% to 80%

DAMIEN KING LEE (18m 14s): No way, really?

CLAIRE HOLT (18m 15s): They are an amazing organization. So I really love them. And I do a lot of work with them and, you know, it’s hard because there are so many different social issues that just as you say, pull on my heartstrings and I want to help as much as I can, but I think I’ve realized as I get older, you know, dividing, conquering isn’t necessarily the best. You know, I have to just focus where…

DAMIEN KING LEE (18m 40s): Where you put that energy, yeah.

CLAIRE HOLT (18m 40s): Where I give time… Where I, where I can and, and sort of help a few select organizations. And of course, you know, using my voice, my platform to share where I can, I’ll always do that. But to really dedicate the time to make a difference, I think is difficult if you spread yourself too thin. So… but I do try, and it really does mean a lot to me. And it means a lot to me to raise my children that way. It’s the way I was raised, and I think you get so much out of it being, being helpful and, and trying to support people who are struggling or, or want to live a better life and don’t have the opportunities you have, like that, that helps me.

CLAIRE HOLT (19m 26s): And I think that’s one of the things that people don’t necessarily realize, you know, I might get more out of it than, than they do at times because it just, it, it feels good to, to…

DAMIEN KING LEE (19m 38s): It feels good.

CLAIRE HOLT (19m 39s): It feels good, to do good

DAMIEN KING LEE (19m 40s): It feels good, right? Yeah.

CLAIRE HOLT (19m 41s): Yeah, it does.

DAMIEN KING LEE (19m 43s): Absolutely. Claire and, you know, yeah. I, I’m in, you know, this situation where I have these moments of my life, where I reflect on, you know, my time on this earth and, and being in the position I am each day being terminal and not knowing how, how much time I actually have ahead of me is really difficult. And, and particularly when I look at my two boys, you know, they’re, they’re 11 and 13… 12 and 13, Josh is going to kill me again [laughs]

CLAIRE HOLT (20m 16s): Sorry, Josh!

DAMIEN KING LEE (20m 17s): Sorry Josh! [laughs] 12 and 13, but, you know, and I ask myself each day, you know, I have my own platform in my way, by what I do through my, you know, my entrepreneurism. And then if I have this platform and opportunity to be able to do good the way I do and give back and so on, it makes me feel good, okay? Because when I go to my grave and we’re all going to go to our grave one day, just at different times, obviously. How are we going to be remembered, right? And, and what are we going to leave behind that we’ll still have a continuation and legacy that will continue to sort of provide, help, leave a message of good?

DAMIEN KING LEE (21m 3s): Because the world is in such turmoil right now. And, and we go through these periods on our planet where we go through this terminal and then there’s periods of calm and good again. And right now I truly believe that we’re in one of these very uncertain times. Again, we have, you know, COVID, some people believe it’s, it’s real. Some people don’t, we have certain politics going on and dividing nations. We have troubles going on and we need to chisel through all that and say, “gosh, how do we get through all that noise?” And how do we just do our little bit to help? And there was a great American president once upon a time who said, “ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.”

DAMIEN KING LEE (21m 46s): Right? And that still resonates to me to this day. You know, he was a great American president, I believe. And, and those words were, were really like, “yes, stop thinking about yourself so much and start asking yourself how we can pull together and help our great nation” not just America, but all our great nations around the world. So, so I use my platform yes. To try and…

CLAIRE HOLT (22m 15s): Do you find that you felt a shift since your most recent diagnosis? Do you feel… I guess what’s changed for you? Do you feel that it’s been any different to your past journey? Now with it being terminal, do you feel like you want to slow down? Do you want to speed up? How, how do you feel moving forward?

DAMIEN KING LEE (22m 40s): Yeah, Claire, that’s a really good question. And I feel I got to speed up, okay? I tell people I’ve got no time for cancer, okay? And I truly believe that I truly believe that. I’ve now just completed my 78th treatment

CLAIRE HOLT (22m 55s): Oh my Goodness

DAMIEN KING LEE (22m 56s): Of chemo and radiotherapy. I’m about to start my next cycle treatment of immunotherapy. I’ve had three surgeries on top of it. I’ve been battling this thing for five plus years now into my fifth diagnosis of cancer. It’s been in my chest, in my stomach and my neck and my back, you know, in my bones.

CLAIRE HOLT (23m 19s): And look at you!

THE VOICE (23m 21s): He used to be a chubby thing, a chubby little bastard.

DAMIEN KING LEE (23m 27s): [Laughs] It’s my secret, my weight loss secret.

CLAIRE HOLT (23m 30s): It really hasn’t affected your spirit.

DAMIEN KING LEE (23m 33s): It hasn’t, I feel great Claire. I feel great. And you know, for me, each time I have to go do my treatments and, and, and so on. It’s just a speed hump. I have so much left energy-wise and so much left to give. And as I said, there’s no time for cancer.

CLAIRE HOLT (23m 51s): You are incredible

THE VOICE (23m 52s): Claire, one of the things…

DAMIEN KING LEE (23m 54s): Little fly flying around

THE VOICE (23m 55s): One of the things you should know about Damien, which always, always blew me away was every time he was like… I’ve known him a long time, but every time he was faced with really dramatic and it could be anything, a relationship thing or, or a work thing or whatever. And this is obviously the most dramatic, but he always seemed to take the worst aspect of it and figure out that that’s something that everybody probably went through in some way, shape or form. And then, and then, you know, focused his efforts on trying to fix it and made a business out of it. That was crazy. And so he did that with this, with this like dietary thing, cause he had to change his diet. He changed… He literally started a company, so he changed all of our diets.

THE VOICE (24m 37s): And then with plastic, to eradicate all the plastic on this planet. And he’s literally the closest anyone has come. And you guys just recently cracked the nut, didn’t you? I mean, it was pretty amazing.

DAMIEN KING LEE (24m 49s): Yeah. With single use plastics.

THE VOICE (24m 51s): Unbelievable. Here you are, here’s my reusable water bottle.

DAMIEN KING LEE (24m 56s): Fantastic. Well done Claire. Yeah. So we’re on a journey to, and we we’re really close now and we’re working with some pretty big partners to eradicate single use plastics. Well, eradicate, find a solution to it. And we’re really excited about that. But that’s another story. So, so, and, and again, you know, that’s my legacy. I’m determined. I’m not going to stop yet until that’s well on its way. I’m well on to way to feeding people, better feeding options, you know, from nasty food groups. So, so look, we all have our journeys and you’ve got yours and it’s fantastic what you’re doing and that’s why I was just fascinated. You built such a great social platform where you can have an influence on people and you can have a voice. And that that’s amazing and, and values are really important.

DAMIEN KING LEE (25m 38s): And you clearly have some, some great values, which, which is super important.

THE VOICE (25m 44s): So just to kind of circle around, there’s a couple of things that you were talking to me about before we jumped on this. One was the fact that Claire obviously is not only an Australian, but you know, kind of leaving everything behind thing that you guys were talking about earlier. You obviously went through that too, but in a different way. It’s very funny story, Claire one day, I’ll tell you that because it is outrageous, right?

DAMIEN KING LEE (26m 12s): My leaving Australia journey? Yeah.

THE VOICE (26m 15s): You know, it’s funny because you’ve, you’ve gone from being a passive, like being in the military to not being a pacifist, but really being on the other end of the spectrum, you know, trying to eradicate the violence and everything. I mean, you were in a special forces and then now you’re, you’re in the special passive forces.

DAMIEN KING LEE (26m 34s): Passive forces, man. I just ride motorbikes. That’s all now.

THE VOICE (26m 40s): Now you were asking earlier about the whole thing that’s going on in America and being in Australia and all of that. But, but you were thinking of moving out there too, weren’t you? You were thinking of moving to America.

DAMIEN KING LEE (26m 54s): Yeah. Yeah. I was, I was saying to Claire earlier, I was thinking of taking my, as I said, my business has expanded to America and I was thinking about taking the whole family there. It was, it was a lifelong dream. So many times I’d been out to California and said, we’re moving, we’re moving, we’re moving and more recently to Austin. Cause I love Austin.

CLAIRE HOLT (27m 11s): Oh, really? DAMIEN KING LEE (27m 13s): Yeah. I love Austin

CLAIRE HOLT (27m 14s): My husband works a lot in Austin. He’s got a huge part of his business there. He loves it too. I’ve only been once with him, but people, everyone raves about Austin.

DAMIEN KING LEE (27m 21s): So cool. I love Austin. It’s the people are amazing, but it’s kind of like this little melting pot of all of America, you know, you’ve got New Yorkers, Californians… People from all over that now kind of make Austin and this really cool vibe. And I love it there’s. But, you know, I I’ve become acclimatized to the, the British weather [laughs] and when I found Austin, God it’s stinking hot here, you know.

CLAIRE HOLT (27m 44s): Oh, yeah… I live in Miami part of the year and I can relate to that. It is brutal.

DAMIEN KING LEE (27m 51s): Where are you now? You’re in Miami?

CLAIRE HOLT (27m 53s): I’m in Los Angeles right now

DAMIEN KING LEE (27m 54s): You’re in LA right now.

CLAIRE HOLT (27m 55s): To have the baby, but we’ll go, go back to Miami in a few weeks.

DAMIEN KING LEE (27m 59s): Yeah. So, so, but yeah, but that’s another story and I mean, that’s the question. How does the US compared to Australia to you, what are the big differences something takes for you?

CLAIRE HOLT (28m 10s): It’s interesting because if you’d have asked me this question a year ago, I would have said… Oh, there’s no comparison. I could never move back to Australia. It’s just more. America has everything I could possibly need, so many opportunities. It’s an incredible country to travel to so much of it that I haven’t seen yet. It’s a beautiful place. It’s beautiful people. I mean, maybe if you’d have asked me four years ago. Yeah [laughs] but even, you know, last year I was saying I could never move home. And now I look at pictures and, and hear stories from my family and I FaceTime with my family and I just feel like: “wow, it is such a beautiful country.”

CLAIRE HOLT (28m 55s): It is, you know, they have their issues granted everywhere does, but I feel like it’s so family oriented and it’s a slower pace of life. And there’s not that constant hustle to be somebody or do something or achieve, you know, there’s more of an emphasis on being present and, and being around the people you love, or at least that’s how I felt when I grew up. And that’s how I see a lot of my friends are now, you know, they are so content with their lives that revolve around their families. And there’s not that feeling of unrest that I think a lot of us feel in, in America or at least I feel, you know, I should be doing more or I should be somewhere else.

CLAIRE HOLT (29m 36s): So… My career should be here or my life should be here. And I think that’s driven by the fact that there are so many opportunities, but it’s, you know, it’s also this fast paced way of living. And then you add to that the massive social unrest right now and everything that’s going on and the way that the pandemic has played out in this country, as opposed to some of the other countries like Australia and New Zealand, for example, and that makes it tough. It really does. But you know, I, I’m also not going to turn my back on a country.

DAMIEN KING LEE (30m 14s): That’s been so good…

CLAIRE HOLT (30m 15s): That’s been so important to me for the last 11 years and I believe it can be better. And, you know, I think that it’s so true. Every individual voice matters. You go to the poll… I’m so excited to vote this time. It’s my first time.

DAMIEN KING LEE (30m 30s): I wish I could vote. I wish I could vote that. Yeah.

CLAIRE HOLT (30m 33s): I know, I can’t wait. I voted in the primary in Florida, actually in, in March, Right when… Right at the start of the pandemic and it was all terrified and had the gloves on the masks and this, that, and the other. And I was just like “Oh, I’m so happy to be here. Yes, I love it. I wanted to do this. I wanted to do this for so long.” So, you know, I think I’m just going to use my voice, but I’m not going anyway yet. Maybe one day when you know, my husband and I are older and the kids are all [inaudible], we’ll head out to Oz and retire there, or maybe they’ll want to move there who knows. They’ll have that opportunity.

CLAIRE HOLT (31m 14s): But right now I’m sort of staying put. But I don’t blame you. You know, if I was faced with a decision, do I want to move my whole life to the United States right now, had I not already been here? I don’t think the answer would be yes.

DAMIEN KING LEE (31m 26s): Not the right time, right? And how are you going to vote by post or you’re going to show up at the polling booth?

CLAIRE HOLT (31m 32s): I think I’m going to show up. I’ve applied for the ballot But I dunno something, something about being in that first presidential election for me as a voter, as an American citizen…

DAMIEN KING LEE (31m 45s): And what an election for you, your first vote? Huh? What an election!

THE VOICE (31m 49s): Depending on which way you are going to vote…

CLAIRE HOLT (31m 52s): What do you think I’m going to vote [laughs]

THE VOICE (31m 55s): Funniest part is you might not have a voting booth to turn up to.

CLAIRE HOLT (31m 60s): I know… That’s true… Honestly that was part of the reason I went for my citizenship. One was, you know, my son’s American and, and I wanted to sort of get my citizenship for that reason. But, but honestly, I just want to go and like…

DAMIEN KING LEE (32m 19s): Claire I’m with you. That’s why I said, I wish I could vote. I want my voice heard to!

CLAIRE HOLT (32m 26s): Oh gosh [inaudible]

DAMIEN KING LEE (32m 30s): God bless America. But look, Claire, I mean, finally, I mean, what’s ahead for Claire Holt. You’re going to be a mummy very, very shortly but then what are the plans ahead?

CLAIRE HOLT (32m 47s): So… I don’t know. I really do love what I do. And that’s what I’ve realized and what I’ve been working on a lot with your dear Voice back there. And my friend Rob, a director, you know, we’ve been developing some stuff because there are stories that I’m really excited to tell, and I’m really enjoying the production aspect or the producing aspects, development aspect of the film business is something I haven’t really been able to explore up until this point. And so I’m hoping to sort of, after I have my daughter be able to go back and, and still fulfill that creative side of me that loves to do that.

CLAIRE HOLT (33m 30s): And I keep telling myself, you know, it’s okay to work hard. It’s okay to show my children that we have to make sacrifices, to get to where we want to be. I want to teach them that they can be and do whatever they want to do, but it doesn’t necessarily come easily. And, you know, as much as I now having my child respect my mother and think it’s incredible what she did in the sacrifice she made. I don’t think that that path is for me. I think there are still things I’d like to achieve. And I still think I can use my voice and my platform in a way that’s going to help other people. So I’m hoping to get back to work, you know, whenever the world allows us, whatever my body allows me and my daughter allows me.

CLAIRE HOLT (34m 15s): But I think I’ve sort of found this balance of career and motherhood that’s working for me right now. You know, originally, I was like, well, I’m going back to work straight away and you know, I’m going to be on set and I’m going to do this and, you know, my son is just, he’s going to think it’s great and that’ll be fine. And now I realized, you know what, that’s probably not what life’s about. And as you say, you know, we’re all going to die someday. And when I look back, I don’t want to feel like I missed moments with the people that matter. So I’m slowly but surely working on finding the right balance. I think I’m getting there, but I do, I do have things I’d love to still achieve in, in the film industry.

THE VOICE (34m 56s): Well, you know what, I’m sorry to, to kind of start wrapping this up, but, but I’m the one with, with the timer.

CLAIRE HOLT (35m 5s): Oh yeah. I know we could talk for hours.

THE VOICE (35m 8s): Just one thing.

DAMIEN KING LEE (35m 9s): Party pooper.

THE VOICE (35m 10s): Here’s, here’s the interesting thing just from The Voice as it were… Claire, you’re incredibly articulate. I hope every writer that ever works with you in the future understands that your, your insightful and, and articulate and, and definitely know what you’re talking about and will take your notes without arguing back [laughs]

CLAIRE HOLT (35m 33s): Thank you! Thank you. I still have that complex in my head, I’m just a dumb actress who think she knows what she’s talking about.

THE VOICE (35m 41s): No, no, no, no. I’ve met a lot of dumb actresses and you’re not one of them. Thank you so much for joining us… Damien? Yeah, Claire. I mean, actually amazing again, especially at this time in your life right now to be with us, it’s been an absolute pleasure. You’re an absolute inspiration

CLAIRE HOLT (35m 58s): Likewise, you are so inspiring to me and thank you for taking the time to talk to me. And I feel like I’ve just learned so much from watching your beautiful spirit and the way that you seem to have navigated it, all, all that life’s thrown at you. So thank you for taking the time to talk to me too.

DAMIEN KING LEE (36m 14s): Thank you, Claire. And hope to see you in the States one day soon, huh? <inaudible> We are all moving in!

CLAIRE HOLT (36m 36s): I love that, the more the merrier.

DAMIEN KING LEE (36m 36s): Thank you again Claire, we love you.

CLAIRE HOLT (36m 36s): Thank you.

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