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Transcript: Tech N9ne Part 2

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Transcript: The Bella Twins Part 2

Damien (3s):
Hi, I’m Damien King li and this is the f****d up story of my life and the lives of my guests. In this series of podcasts, I’ll be speaking to unique and inspiring individuals about their life, their personal stories, struggles, and experiences. Hey guys, welcome back to Damien King Lee, Life Is… And part two of The Bella’s life’s journey. Is there any sort of points and I’m sure there was my guess in those early days where one of you said, “you know what I’m done here, I’m out”, but the other sort of pulled the other one back in and said, we’ve got to do this together.

Damien (54s):
It’s going to be more difficult alone. I mean, you know, those moments.

The Voice (58s):
Is there a specific example?

Brie Bella (1m 2s):
Yeah, gosh. I mean, there was definitely those moments where we one wanted to quit and the other helped keep the other, but I’m trying to think of like,

The Voice (1m 12s):
Do you know you guys, I remember, sorry, sorry to interrupt. But I remember when you first started, I’ve known you guys’ a long time. You’d get back to LA and we’d go out, you know, one time were in the back of a bar and she would try to convince me and take a bump.

Brie Bella (1m 36s):

The Voice (1m 42s):
I remember thinking, Oh, you want to actually like a shoulder slamming into the wall, or onto the floor or something. But I remember you were telling me a story about the Jeff Hardy at the time who had really helped you guys out and, and have kind of been there and, and been really, you know, kind of a cheerleader for you guys. And, and you were really happy that, you know, you were making headway with some of the guys. And I remember there was a real definite change in from from the, “Oh God”

The Voice (2m 23s):
kind of scenario that I had experienced with you guys previously to, to the time that, you know, you started seeing a light, I suppose, at the end of the tunnel, that’s kind of why I meant. I mean, were there any specific people, or times that you can kind of, you know, a recall now that really has a profound impact on, on the way your lives went for it?

Brie Bella (2m 43s):
Oh, I mean, definitely like, the one thing I will say is that when we did start, when we debuted on TV, there was like a close knit group of us who really just kind of powered through the long travel days and how hard TV could be definitely like the Hardy boys, Shane Holmes, Tommy Dreamer. There is a lot of like great guys that were surrounding us that were, that were cheering us on. And cheering all the women on. They wanted to see the women do better. They really like took time to help us out with stories and, and ring work. I, you know, it’s funny because Nicole and I did walk away from WWE for a little while.

Damien (3m 25s):
Oh really, wow.

Brie Bella (3m 26s):
We did get to a point. Yeah, we got to a point.

Damien (3m 29s):
At what stage in your career?

Brie Bella (3m 30s):
We were five years into WWE and Nicole and I just really change.

Nicole Bella (3m 35s):
We wanted change.

Brie Bella (3m 37s):
We were tired of just being treated, kind of like the eye candy. We wanted wrestling storylines and they literally told us like, well, we have no ideas for you. And it was our mom. Our mom always put in us, like growing up and she would just say “live with no regrets”. She always says “live with no regrets”, but we talked to our mom about it. And she was like, “maybe you need to walk away? so they know what they’re missing?”. And we were like, OK, but it means no paycheck and starting over.

Damien (4m 4s):
But that takes balls right, sorry, balls, male talk.

Brie Bella (4m 10s):
And we did, we took the leap of faith and we left, and we left at the end of our contract. So it was walking away with no money. And we were like, fingers crossed they realize what they have and they’re going to miss it. And I will say, how many, how long did it take for them to call us?

Nicole Bella (4m 28s):
Two weeks? Yeah. Two weeks. We made them wait.

Damien (4m 31s):
That’s a good. I always work on a week but you know.

Nicole Bella (4m 38s):
Well, you know, we thought double trouble is two weeks is good. It’s good. And you know, even from the beginning of that and kind of what you were touching on Ezna is one that I realized, and, and this goes for like any industry. And I know I would be the same if, you know, a ballerina walked on the soccer field and I was like, look, I’m going to do this. I’d be like, who do you think you are? And that was kind of how we were when we came in the wrestling industry, we had no experience whatsoever, but we were craving the learn we had to desire to learn, a want. And when there was a shift is when I noticed that we finally proved ourselves. So, Brie and I knew that we had to prove ourselves and we gained the respect of the other wrestlers.

Damien (5m 21s):
Can I ask, when did you know that point had happened? When had you hit that point? Well, you know what, they respect us?

Nicole Bella (5m 29s):
I remember just like, when you’d come back from a match and it would be the guys like Jeff Hardy or Edge or Carlito, or John Sena of all of these different names. And they would be like, “Hey, that was a great match, and this is the great things you did, and, oh my gosh, if you do this, it will be even better”. And that’s when I was like, they have faith in us. Like we finally have proven our worth that we actually care about this industry. And now it’s made them care about us and it would make work so much more fun. And that’s when your desire of wanting more kicks in because it’s like, I love what I do. And now I want more. And, and I think it’s great when you have that opportunity to prove yourself, there’s I love the challenge of it.

Damien (6m 15s):
So how many years in from when you started to that point where you said they finally respect this, they finally got us.

Nicole Bella (6m 22s):
Would you say Brie? Two, three years in?

Brie Bella (6m 25s):
At least three. Yes, please. Yeah, you’re right. At least at least three. And then when we really felt the shift is when Total Divas went on air and Total Divas made such big waves for us at WWE, as women at WWE, that it was weird to all of a sudden walk backstage and have the respect start there instead of having to go out and perform, it was starting back stage

Damien (6m 52s):
It wasn’t just for the cameras, it was real, it was behind the scenes. Yeah.

Brie Bella (6m 57s):
Yeah. And I, and I was like, whoa, like, it felt different walking into the backstage of WWE. And the one thing I will say about the reality show is that it, I think it showed are higher ups, that there’s so many different things to the women, and that you could showcase on WWE television. And we started to take that onto, you know, into the WWE ring. And that’s when I felt Nicole and I go from middle card women too, like the top, it was like, it was crazy. And that was a time to were beg, we would always beg Vince, can we please dress different? Like we hate being twins.

Brie Bella (7m 36s):
And Total Diva’s is the reason why we started to be able to wear different gear. Like we were still the Bella Twins, we’re still a tag team, but we’re also individuals like, we are different people and we wanted to start showcasing that, but it was like the minute he allowed us to do that, Total Diva’s was on air, and they’re giving us a little more time on television. Nicole and I felt ourselves go for a middle card women to the top.

Damien (7m 60s):
That was the shift change. Yeah. That was it. Yeah.

Brie Bella (8m 2s):
Yeah. And that was an incredible feeling. And it’s one I’ll always remember, like, I was like, this is what they say when you’re, in your prime. Yeah.

Damien (8m 12s):
No. And, and, and you know what I was reading about you guys and, and, and trying to sort of understand how that must have been for you guys in the difficulties and the early stages. That’s why I was curious to know how long it took when you actually said it’s happened. The shift changed happened. And three years to hang in there and, and be determined. And that’s, that’s, that’s powerful, you know, that’s determination. And, and, and that’s amazing. I take that back to, to somebody I knew that many years ago and back home in Australia, and I served in the military back home once upon a time in Australia. And I was in a certain military unit that you had to go through a selection to, to, to be selected, to go into the, in, into the unit at the time.

Damien (8m 55s):
And there was a In part of our, our military unit headquarters had females, cause it was an all male unit. So it was it all now only males back then.

The Voice (9m 7s):
And this was in the fifties, right?

Damien (9m 11s):
Stop, how old do I look?

Nicole Bella (9m 14s):
Young, very young.

Damien (9m 17s):
Thank you. And um, there was some female’s that served in the regiment, but their jobs were in headquarters as clerks. They were a transport as drivers, and that was it. But all the operators, they, where, you know, males. And there was this one particular woman, I’ll just say her name. Now a first name, her name was Debbie. I’ll never forget her. And she was determined to go through selection at the time in this male dominated world, it was only about men back then. And she wanted to earn her beret. And she, she said to The the hierarchy at the unit. I want to do selection. Like the rest of the guys that are, that are going in for this unit to serve as an operator.

Damien (9m 59s):
And the guy’s at the time were like, you know, in the hierarchy, like no way there’s women do not serve in these roles. And she just kept banging on and banging on. And the guys in the unit were like, you know, girls, you know, we will never be strong enough. You’ll never be able to achieve what a man can do here. And that was, it was a very macho world. And I remember it very clearly. And I, I knew Debbie, I knew Debbie, From the unit. And, and, and I really liked to determination. I really like who she was and how she said, you know, I’m a female, and I’m going to show you were strong as men, if not stronger in certain areas and aspects.

Damien (10m 41s):
And they finally acquiesced after about a, it was about after about a year of her just banging and banging, and they let her go through selection. And she was, as far as I know, one of the first females ever to go through selection in the Australian as a special forces, and this is part of the military.

The Voice (10m 59s):
And, question, did she make it?

Damien (11m 1s):
This is the point she went through so much and she went through difficulties probably in many ways. And when I look back at that, she took more pain. She took more of a struggle. She didn’t complain. She never, never talked about it. She just gritted her teeth more so than any male that I saw go through that. And when we came to the end, or when she came to the end, she didn’t get selected. She didn’t get selected, but she won the admiration of so many people that at that time were at the early stage of saying no way we women can’t do this.

Damien (11m 49s):
She turned them. And she showed that a woman was just as good as a man, if not better on so many roles. And today that’s changed in the Australian military that women now serve and can serve and these particular units and across the world and America and UK and other parts of Israel and so on. And I’ll never forget that her heart, and that was it, her heart and her drive. I’ll never forget it to this day. And, you know, I’m, and when I watch your story and what you guys went through at those early stages and what you’ve turned and reshaped the WWE as it is today, that’s what I believe this Debbie girl did to parts of the Australian military to this day.

Damien (12m 34s):
I, so I really, I really get it. And I know what you guys went through and full admiration.

Brie Bella (12m 40s):
Yeah. And you know, what I love about that is that even though she didn’t get selected, what she did was still open up doors for women by changing the minds. And that is like,

Nicole Bella (12m 51s):
She never gave up

Damien (12m 56s):
She became a role model. She became a role model within the military to say when the, the, the bigger hierarchy beyond our regiment started to look and go, actually, we’ve got to start taking this serious about letting women into certain parts that have traditionally always been a man’s world. We’ve got to start opening this up in discussing this. And she opened the discussion points and, and today the world is very different for, for women with it. Yeah.

Nicole Bella (13m 23s):
That’s beautiful.

Brie Bella (13m 24s):
You know, it’s crazy cause Nicole and I’s story is a lot, like her’s in the sense too, of where women now are doing big things. They’re main eventing there having these crazy matches of matches that we all wish we had when we were, you know, in WWE at the time, but it took Nicole and I to kind of be like her to not give up, to change the minds and the heart of the man to allow women. So it was like, we did the same thing as, or we might not have been selected, but we opened up those doors for now. So many women to, to have those spots. And that means more to me, like, it’s like, okay, maybe I didn’t main event WrestleMania, like a couple of the other girls, but I opened up the door for that to happen.

Brie Bella (14m 10s):
And that means more to me.

Nicole Bella (14m 12s):
I agree. Well, cause you take that fight that you have in that courage and that bravery, you take it into so many other aspects in life. Like, you know, Debbie has, she’s probably, it’s taken it in so many other places in her life. And it’s like, you can’t teach that. And it’s like, you can have these championships. But to me, the true victory and the reward is when you’re at that forefront of the fight, because we know that feeling of not getting it or having to fight hard for it and not having it, and then getting it. And then the women that come after that, they, they get it. But to be at that forefront of fighting for it, the pioneer, right.

Nicole Bella (14m 53s):
That’s just, it’s unlike any championship or Baret or any title you could ever get, because it’s just, that group only goes through it till history has made.

Brie Bella (15m 4s):
Exactly. And you know, it’s funny because being a girl-mom, I love it because I want to teach my daughter the same strengths and I want her to not following my footsteps, but to be strong in her own footsteps. And we saw her at the park the other day, this boy kind of gave her a hard time for being scared to go down a big slide. And we loved it. Cause my daughter has stood up for herself at three years old to a big boy. Like he has to be eight or nine and she stood up for herself and she was like it. She actually said, listen boy, which is, why did you know, what did you say to me?

Nicole Bella (15m 42s):
And he goes, you’re scared.

Brie Bella (15m 44s):
And she goes, and it was the cutest thing, she goes I am scared and it does a matter. And then he liked kind of looked at her and she was, Hey boy, don’t talk to me. And like, she just wouldn’t stop and go Bernie and like she’s three years old. And I literally was felt I was crying, laughing because I just, I have never seen her so fearless and like how it just came out and she bowed up, like she had a bow up to wear. Yeah. Her dad had to tell her to back up because she almost wasn’t letting he was climbing up something to go on the top of the playground. And she was like, blocking him to come up on the platform.

Damien (16m 22s):
She’s got that warrior spirit from someone?

Nicole Bella (16m 24s):
Right. I was like, Brie well, you’re not going to have to worry about that. I know more, that’s a future WWE champion and Hall of Famer probably.

Brie Bella (16m 33s):
But that’s what Nicole and I like to breed in women. And the youth is like, you know, especially because it is scary to use your voice. It’s so scary to stand up for yourself. It’s, it’s even harder sometimes to just there’s so many times I’ve sat in business meetings or even wrestling meetings or so many things where I’ll sit there and I want to say something it’s like in my head, it’s on my tongue, but I don’t have enough courage and I regret it. But when I saw my daughter do that, I was like, you know, I don’t think you’ll have a lot of regrets in life. Cause you’re just spitting it out already. It took me probably until 30 years old to actually have enough courage to really speak my mind.

The Voice (17m 14s):
Speaking of regrets Brie, I was wondering like, you know, are there any like major kind of regrets that you guys carry with you? You know, from maybe even before wrestling through your childhood and whatever, you know, things the, you know, I have haunted you and that you’ve had to deal with or the have helped you, you know, become the people that you are today because I dunno you had to repress them where you have to face them or something. I was just talking to Damien. The reason I bring this up is I was talking to Damien earlier today and, and discovered something completely about him just through the idea of the, the things that he hasn’t wanted to face up to or think about in a very long time.

The Voice (17m 57s):
And I suddenly thought, wow, when the girls are on the podcast, we should probably ask them this. So yeah, I’m fascinated to know,

Damien (18m 4s):
I faced my demons today in a question, talking about you guys, what we were gonna talk about today, you know, it’s, it’s something that I’ve buried deep in, in, I guess to my, in my journey and it’s not often, I don’t really talk about it much, but it’s the guilt that I carried through my life. And, you know, I try to be strong and determined for my family today and, and, and be that role model. And, and, and Brie, you’re a mom and, and, and also about to be a mum again, to a newborn and Nikki you’re about to be a future mom. And it is one of the hardest jobs and the world is actually to be a parent, but a good parent.

Damien (18m 46s):
I always say that, we can all be parents, but to be a good parent and a role model is one of the most difficult jobs in the world because it’s tough being that parent because especially when you’re juggling your career, you’re trying to provide for your family. And at the same time you’re trying to provide for your family. You actually neglect your family because you’re trying to provide you family with your career. If you know what I mean? Right. And, and all these in these areas that we, the difficulties we face and I’ve carried a lot of guilt in my life for things that I regret and I probably haven’t wanted to face up to them. And, and you know, it goes back to my father and my grandmother on my mother’s side and both my father and my grandmother on my mother’s side, both passed away with cancer quite young.

Damien (19m 35s):
And you know, that’s what I’m burdened with to this day, whether it’s DNA or in, in, in, in the genes or who knows. But I remember when my grandmother was ill and I was living in Sydney in Australia at the time and my grandmother was up in Queens, in Brisbane and Queensland. And she been sick for a little while and my parents had gone up to Brisbane to be with her. And they, my parents gave me about a week’s notice and said, Damien, we’re going up to Brisbane to see your grandmother. She’s really not well. And I was busy. I was young, getting on with my life and trying to build a career for myself. And so on was like, yeah, I’ll come up.

Damien (20m 15s):
Don’t worry. I’ll be up there. And didn’t really understand the severity of the situation I did probably didn’t appreciate that well. And the long story is, with one of my best friends, I decided instead of flying from Sydney to Brisbane, I decided to drive with him from Sydney to Brisbane and actually three quarters along the way, there’s is a city in Australia called Surfer’s Paradise. It’s kind of like in America, Las Vegas, your Las Vegas. And we drove on that way on the way to Brisbane. And as we got Surfer’s Paradise. I love that you’re rubbing your tummy.

Brie Bella (20m 50s):
Oh, he’s pushing his butt out so hard right now. I’m like, I’m like, oh, is he going to tear through my stomach. I’m like trying to pat him and like rub him. Yeah. He’s like thinking downward dog.

Damien (21m 2s):
We kind of stopped in Surfer’s Paradise. And we thought, let’s stop and refuel. Refueling became, lets stay for the night. You know, we can get up to Brisbane tomorrow. Let’s stay for tonight. And we did, we made that decision to stay or I made that decision. Let’s stay tonight. And then the following morning, after a big night out and I was hung over and whatever got in a car with my friends, he drove when we got to Brisbane, which is still about an hour or so away, we got to Brisbane and we got to the hospital where my grandmother was. And I remember going up into the hospital and going into the area, the reception area of this, this part of the ward and, there was a nurse on the reception and she said to me, hi, how can I help you?

Damien (21m 43s):
And I said, hi, yeah, I’m here to see my grandmother’s name. And she said, oh, and can I ask who you are? I said, I’m, I’m her grandson. I’m Damien Lee. And I never forget it I was at the counter. And she literally just put her hand on my hand and took my hand and I thought that’s really odd. And she sort of led me away to where my grandmother was, and she held my hand. I was thinking this, this nurse is holding my hand that’s weird and went into the room and there in the room, when they opened the door was my mother, my father, my grandfather, and my uncle around the bed. And that was my grandmother in the bed. And everybody turned and looked at me and said, Dane, they call me Dane, Damien for short, Dane, where have you been?

Damien (22m 30s):
And I said, um, you know, been driving up from Sydney. And I looked at my grandmother and she looked so peaceful and she looked so at rest. I can see the tear in my mom’s eye and they said, Mutti’s passed, we called her Mutti, which is German for grandmother. And they said Mutti passed away an hour ago. She was waiting for you. And I never forget the guilt because I decided to stay one night to go party that night before and Mutti with all her strength was holding on for me to get there. And I failed. And I carried that with me for a long time, that guilt and that why God, what have I done?

Damien (23m 16s):
But it doesn’t stop there. That doesn’t stop there. My father, as I mentioned, also passed away with cancer and, and, and years later, funny enough, 2001, my father was 62 when he passed away with cancer. And I was living here in the UK and my, my, my dad was back home in Australia and he’d been ill for a while, dealing with cancer and my Mom and I’d been on the phone and you know, it had been going on a couple of years. And so I kind of just took it for granted. Dad’s doing well. He’s okay. He’s dealing with it. Dah, dah, dah. But it got to a point where mom said your dad is really not, well, you know, he’s in the hospital and dah, dah, dah.

Damien (23m 60s):
I was like no Dad’s strong. He’s okay, he’s dealing with it. She said, you’ve got to come home. You’ve got to come home. And I said, okay. And I decided, instead of flying from London via Asia to, to, to Australia, I decided I’ll fly by New York because we had a lot of friends in New York. And I said, I’m just going to do a stop over in New York and catch up with my friends on the way. And I did. And I stopped in New York, and I never forget it. I was in Soho, New York at a hotel and I knew I had my Quantas flight back home to Sydney that afternoon. And my friends there said, stay another night, come on, let’s go. There’s a great party going on tonight. And I was like, I’ve really got to go my flights this afternoon.

Damien (24m 40s):
I’ve gotta get on this. They said come on there’s a great party. And you know what? I made the same fatal mistake, making that decision. Yeah. What’s another night? And I cancelled my flight and booked myself on that same flight, the following afternoon to stay for a party. So I got on that flight the next afternoon and I didn’t call home. And I got on that flight and flew to Sydney. And when I got to Sydney, my dad was actually up in Cairns a place called Cairns in far North Queensland with my mum at the time when he was ill and I’d got in Sydney about to get my connecting flight up to Cairns. And I rang mom and said, mom, I’ve landed. I’m in Sydney. And I’m just, you know, an hour, I’m getting on my flight to Cairns and I’ll be up there shortly.

Damien (25m 21s):
And she said, Dane, again. And I knew in her voice and I said, mom, she said, your dad’s just passed away and he’s waiting for you.

Brie Bella (25m 33s):
That breaks my heart.

Damien (25m 35s):
Yeah. Oh my God. And I never forget. I left the airport. I walked outside of the airport at that point and I cried and cried and cried. And I was so angry with myself. So angry at it. I’ve done it again.

The Voice (25m 55s):
But what, what do you think, what do you think the catalyst it was because as it probably a part for you, sorry, I’m just chiming in as The Voice here, but there’s probably a part of you that didn’t wanna, that just didn’t want to.

Damien (26m 9s):
Maybe I didn’t want to face up to it at the time. I didn’t understand the gravity of the situation, but it happened to me once and I let it happen again with, to people that I love more than life itself. That was so close to me, so precious and I let them down and they waited. Each of them waited for me and I carried this burden and this weight for me for years, this is guilt that I couldn’t let go on a tore me apart for so long in my life. And I tried to keep a brave face. And I think it’s defined me as a human today in a human being and who I am is a father of two boys, single father. I have my own challenges with my own health, you know, I’m terminal.

Damien (26m 52s):
So I really feel that I don’t want to have myself or other people make the mistakes necessarily if they can avoid it, that I’ve had to carry for so long. But I have, but I have reached this point in my life where I feel that my grandmother and my grandfather had come to me in the night and of kind of released me from this guilt and burden, but it took years, but I know they’ve come to me and I know they’ve released me and said Damien let go. We forgive you. And that’s another story, but I know that, but now I’m so

The Voice (27m 32s):
You don’t procrastinate.

Damien (27m 33s):
I don’t procrastinate about decisions I make anymore. I don’t make these mistakes, but I also want to encourage people to not procrastinate or not make the mistakes that I’ve made as a person through my experiences to say, if you have that chance right now, don’t let yourself get distracted. Don’t get taken off piste when there’s a really important decision that you’ve got to make in your life, make it, don’t put it off because it may come back to haunt you for a long, long time and define you as a human being. Not necessarily in the right way, but you’ll carry this burden and I’ve had that. But I feel released now. And I’m not sure if you guys have had similar situations, cause I know your backgrounds and, and what you’ve been through with your own family is, but I mean, have you got similar?

The Voice (28m 18s):
Burdens?

Nicole Bella (28m 19s):
It’s well, you know, one thing like for me that I, and I always try to tell myself like Nicole don’t ever use the word regret. How can you learn from that mistake? Because regret is just one of those words that I feel like sticks with you and you know, you carry that, but mine was like carpe diem, always. Is that how you say it? Carpe Diem?

Damien (28m 44s):
Seize the day?

Nicole Bella (28m 45s):
Yes seize the day. That always sticks with me because it’s like, I felt like, especially in my youth, there were so many moments I could have seized and I didn’t, and its like for me, like I would tell Brie like think of those summers that we would be so bored. Why didn’t we make every day count? Like we were so lucky to have those days and those days could have been just something so much greater. And I’ll always think of that. And when I become a mom, like I’m going to make sure that my son can seize every day that he wants to seize. Whether it’s learning something, an instrument or a language or wanting to just go somewhere and learn about birds in the sky or flowers, like the most simple things.

Nicole Bella (29m 32s):
And I felt like at times I would let myself be bored or I didn’t make myself better and I would always try, like I would regret it and now I try to be like, okay, don’t, don’t regret it. You’ve done it now. And you’re now get you still, you know, have more life to do your goals. But it’s like, I wish I would have seized more moments when I was young.

Brie Bella (29m 55s):
Yeah. And I have one personal one and one business one but personal, you know, I’ll never forget the time my husband had neck surgery and I had a big press thing I had to do for Total Divas. And the pressure was on me to be the Total Diva thing. And I picked it and I picked it over my husband having a neck surgery because I was like, well, when we talked he was like, no, I’ll be fine. And I’m strong enough, but that was him just saying it. So I wouldn’t feel guilty. But my husband had to go into this major surgery, alone. And as a wife, I should have been there.

Brie Bella (30m 35s):
And to this day when we talk about it, it gives me this really sick feeling inside that I picked something so dumb and that I wasn’t truly needed for over something that was really big and his life. And that ended up being like a career ending type of thing as well. Yeah. And so for me, I just, when I saw my sister going to neck surgery, I’ll never forget the fear she had, but she had a lot of us supporting her, but all these things and I go, Holy crap, my husband went through all of that by himself, got rolled back in the room by himself. He was waiting by himself.

Brie Bella (31m 15s):
Everything he did was by himself. He came out of it by himself. I wasn’t, there!

Nicole Bella (31m 20s):
Yeah that’s pretty messed up Brie.

Brie Bella (31m 22s):
So I really regret that. And I will say, sorry to him all the time.

Nicole Bella (31m 27s):
You just said it last week cause I remember being around.

Damien (31m 30s):
Where were you Brie?

Brie Bella (31m 32s):
I was in New York. At a red carpet event.

Damien (31m 35s):
That place. S**t. Damn it.

Brie Bella (31m 37s):
Geez, right?

Nicole Bella (31m 38s):
That city, that feminine energy is it just drags us in.

Brie Bella (31m 42s):
Right. And I was in New York on a red carpet promoting Total Diva’s, like, and it kills me to this day and I’m like, why didn’t I? Like, I’m mad. I mad the decision I made. And, and I, you know, my husband’s let it go, but still I’m like, oh, it kills me.

Nicole Bella (31m 58s):
You need to work on releasing it now.

Brie Bella (31m 60s):
Now I have to work on releasing it cause it’s still irks me to this day/

Damien (32m 3s):
And that’s it, isn’t it it’s about releasing that, that weight off our chest. And I said, I believe my grandmother and, and my dad have released me and I feel so much lighter today and maybe however you release it. It’s, it’s what we need.

The Voice (32m 18s):
You know, it’s interesting though. I, I’ve got so much respect for your husband from that story. I probably wouldn’t be able to do it all my own, you know?

Brie Bella (32m 29s):
Yeah. I mean he did it all on his own, all by himself. The nurse literally FaceTimed me.

Damien (32m 35s):
What did he have going on with his neck? Cus, I’ve been through that myself so.

Brie Bella (32m 38s):
But he had a bunch of, okay. He had a bunch of bone spurs that were pinning his nerves down in his neck. And like, like, I don’t know where neck maybe up in the shoulder, but just from wrestling. And so, but it was causing so much nerve damage and his arm and his hand where he couldn’t even open up a car door, he couldn’t hold a mug all because of these bone spurs pinning down the nerves. So it was like a major surgery. And then I’m on a red carpet in New York City, kills me.

Damien (33m 14s):
Ah, the things we do, well, you know what, I just want to say guys, you know, I’ve taken a lot of your time today in tonight to tonight today, you guys have been absolutely fantastic. And you know, I wanna thank you for being here today. I guess my last question too, you guys is, you know, you guys are role models and you inspire a lot of women and you know, and people around the world and you know, what is the message you guys want to reinforce and push out there today to, to, to so many people that are inspired by you guys, what does that, what is your mission?

Nicole Bella (33m 57s):
It was, you know, for me it would be, to definitely walk on your truth and know that you can be the hero of your own story, that you can be the survivor and not the victim.

Brie Bella (34m 12s):
And for myself is to, you know, I tell everyone, trust your gut, your guts always, right. I never trusted my gut, which made me never trust my voice. And the minute I started to trust my gut and use my voice, I broke a lot of barriers. I became success successful in ways, I never thought, ever. If you would asked me at 10 years old, I’d be the person I am today. I wouldn’t have believed you. And umm, but it took me to really just dig in deep and pull out this courage, this bravery and trust, like Nicole said, you know, living in your truth, but just trusting yourself. And so I always encourage people, use your voice. Your voice will never fail you and trust your gut because that will never fail you either.

Nicole Bella (34m 57s):
Amen sister.

The Voice (34m 57s):
Well, thanks for joining us. Just so you know, I, you know, at some point hopefully we’ll get together again. And the, the interesting thing is that Damien really, you know, he’s, he’s very modest and I love that, you know, you guys had an opportunity to me today, you know, but talk and, and kind of, you know, your story, parallel’s in a lot of ways his own, even though he’s is in kind of the way the business kind of disruptor space kind of with specifically and combines it with, with a, you know, struggle and survival story with his health.

The Voice (35m 38s):
And you know, you guys also, Nikki I know that your neck was in deep trouble at one point as well. So you have that too. But, but it’s fascinating hearing, you know, you guys kind of go into the details. You’re like, did you guys have grown up so much! You know, that, I feel like, you know, I was a little bit left behind.

Damien (36m 8s):
They’ve zoomed past you.

The Voice (36m 11s):
We, you know, you really are inspirational.

Brie Bella (36m 14s):
So that means so much.

The Voice (36m 16s):
So happy that you did this.

Damien (36m 17s):
Truly, I cannot thank you enough.

The Voice (36m 18s):
And, and, and listen, we’re going to send you some stuff by the way. So, so you can see kind of what he does, you know, when he’s not. The day job. And when you see it, then you kind of see what, you know, what he actually has been doing it will blow your minds. It’s, it’s amazing. I mean, hopefully we’re going to do a way with the, with the plastic waste issue that the world is dealing with right now. It’s a huge problem. And the health issue in terms of, of, of food and eating so on and so forth. There’s a lot like he’s really pushing in those directions. So, so the combination of, you know, your spirit and, you know, his kind of innovative products in, so on and so forth, try and change a world in his way.

The Voice (37m 2s):
I think I’m, you know, really sends a positive message out there.

Damien (37m 18s):
Thanks for tuning in today’s show in. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. Please make sure you tune in again next week where I have with me, the incredible Mr. Wesley Snipes. That’s right. Mr. Wesley Snipes, a deeply spiritual and incredible guy, you’re going to love the show. I’m sure. So I hope to see you next week.

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